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Across tech, one strategy is winning out: stop being a low-margin assembler. The game isn't about packaging other people's parts anymore. It's about owning the whole stack, from the core tech to the final customer experience.
The Unifying Theme
The worst insult in Chinese tech right now is being called a "fruit vendor." It means you don't grow the fruit, you just arrange it nicely in a box. This single idea—the assembler's trap—is driving everything.
We're seeing it everywhere. Short drama creators got sick of platforms taking an 85% cut, so they rebelled. They weren't just asking for better terms. They built a whole new ad-supported model to control their own destiny. Then there’s the skincare company Betaine. They don't just buy ingredients. They're protecting the entire ecosystem in Yunnan where their plants grow. That ecosystem is their private R&D lab. They own the farm, not just the fruit.
AI is throwing gasoline on this fire. Old software sold you tools, like a hammer, to help your team work. But new AI startups aren't selling a better hammer. They're selling the finished house. Their product is a "digital worker" that replaces the whole assembly line. As an exec at Li Auto put it, AI closes the gap between an idea and a product, making big, specialized teams a liability. The future belongs to whoever controls the process end-to-end.
Why It Matters
For founders and VCs in the West, this is a huge warning. The days of building a business as a thin layer on someone else's platform are numbered.
Slapping a slick UI on top of AWS, a social network, or OpenAI's API is a race to the bottom. You'll end up as a fruit vendor, and the platform owner will squeeze you dry.
So you have to ask yourself: What part of the stack do you actually own? It can't just be the pretty interface. The real moats are deeper. TCL had to bet the farm on making its own screens. The travel company Mafengwo's edge is its ability to book a real table in Tokyo—handling the "atoms," not just the "bits" an AI spits out. Betaine's moat is literally a patch of dirt. If you don't control a core piece of the puzzle that no one can copy, you're not a business. You're just renting space on someone else's land.
Key Patterns & Strategic Takeaways:
Pattern: Stop Being an Assembler. Be an Owner. The strongest companies are bringing everything in-house. If someone else provides 80% of your value, you're not a business—you're a feature on their platform.
Debate: AI as a Tool vs. AI as the Worker. This is a big split in strategy right now. Most companies are building AI "tools" to make their people faster. But the real game-changers are building "digital workers" to do the entire job. It's the difference between giving your team a race car and just getting a self-driving one.s
Insight: The Moat is Moving from Bits to Atoms. As AI makes information ("bits") cheap, your real advantage comes from connecting it to the physical world ("atoms"). Mafengwo's travel AI wins because it can actually book you that table. Betaine's defense isn't a secret formula, it's a real-life ecosystem.
Mental Model: Sell Results, Not Tools. Stop selling software that helps people do a job. Sell a service that gets the job done for them. People don't buy a drill because they want a drill. They buy it because they want a hole in the wall. Focus on the hole, not the drill.
Strategy: "Good Enough" Can Be Revolutionary. The breakthrough product isn't always the most advanced. It's often the one that hits the sweet spot on price and performance. TCL's Mini LED wasn't technically better than OLED, but it was 90% as good for a price people would actually pay.
Warning: Too Much Leverage Breaks Things. Crypto and private credit both teach the same lesson. Risk doesn't vanish, it just hides in the dark corners of the market. When everyone relies on a few key players, one small shock can bring the whole system down. The plumbing matters more than the hype.
Pivotal Quotes
"When a big tech wave comes, remember: the cost of trial and error isn't the most expensive part. The cost of waiting is."
"Travel is digital plus bits, which means atoms plus the physical world. That means we still have a chance."
"Using AI is an act of faith. If you trust it, it works. If you doubt it, you might not get what you want. The AI product itself is the 'dark art,' not just the prompting."
This week's Deep Dive Panda covers 14 specific podcast episodes, including:
What's Next | Tech First — From "addiction models" to "focus training": How can we regain initiative in a world understood by algorithms? | English Interview S9E33
Original: What's Next|科技早知道 — 从「上瘾模型」到「专注力训练」,如何在被算法理解的世界里重新找回主动?| 英文访谈 S9E33
That's how business works — Green Dot Sample | Beitanni: Why should skincare companies protect the snow-capped mountain ecosystem?
Original: 商业就是这样 — 绿点小样 | 贝泰妮:护肤品公司为什么要保护雪山的生态系统?
That's how business works — Vol.228 人类已经离不开屏幕,但这个行业很残酷
Original: 商业就是这样 — Vol.228 Humans can no longer live without screens, but this industry is cruel
Indie Hacker — EP115 Are we still using old software in the new era?
Original: 硬地骇客 — EP115 我们是不是在新时代还在做老软件?
Chapter 42 — The world through the eyes of a fundamentalist product manager | A conversation with Ideal SVP Fan Haoyu
Original: 42章经 — 一个原教旨主义产品经理眼中的世界 | 对谈理想 SVP 范皓宇
Web3 101 — E64|200亿美元爆仓的黑天鹅教会我们的事
Original: Web3 101 — E64|What the Black Swan of the $20 Billion Margin Explosion Can Teach Us
Original: 贝望录 — 194. 「十种人生,一种态度」:十位姐姐的一场共创出书的集体冒险
Bei Wanglu — 195. 400 million vs. 1.9 million: The politics and culture behind the gun disparity in Britain and the United States
Original: 贝望录 — 195. 4 亿支 vs. 190 万支:枪支差距背后的英美政治与文化
Watching the Rise and Fall of Great Buildings — Lights Out E02: Cryptocurrency Flash Crash, US Government Shutdown, First Brands Bankruptcy, Wahaha Incident
Original: 起朱楼宴宾客 — 不熄灯E02 币圈闪崩、美国政府关门、First Brands破产、娃哈哈风波
Flipping Through Books — 245. The revenue-sharing revolution of short dramas: What has changed from paid to free?
Original: 乱翻书 — 245.短剧的分账革命:从付费转向免费改变了什么?
People's Park talks AI — Digging Deeper into OpenAI DevDay | ChatGPT Upgrades to an Operating System, Will This Be the End of iOS and Android?
Original: 人民公园说AI — 深挖OpenAI DevDay|ChatGPT升级为操作系统,iOS和安卓将被终结了?
AI Cocoa AI Life — [AI Review] Is AI a tool for “common prosperity” or an amplifier of the “Matthew effect”?
Original: AI可可AI生活 — [AI评论] AI是“共同富裕”的工具,还是“马太效应”的放大器?
AI Cocoa AI Life — [Everyone Can Understand] From the Speed of Thinking, the Evolution of Imagination, to Intelligent Questioning
Original: AI可可AI生活 — [人人能懂] 从思考的速度、想象的进化到智慧的提问
Original: 开始连接 — Vol.73|对话马蜂窝:Chatbot 行程规划、AI Agent 代订机酒,方向全错了
Here are the key lessons & mental models from each episode:
1. What's Next | Tech First - From "addiction models" to "focus training": How can we regain initiative in a world understood by algorithms? | English Interview S9E33
Original: What's Next|科技早知道 — 从「上瘾模型」到「专注力训练」,如何在被算法理解的世界里重新找回主动?| 英文访谈 S9E33
Build Painkillers, Not Vitamins. People don't use products to chase a good feeling. They use them to escape a bad one, like being bored, lonely, or confused. So stop adding features and start solving their real problems.
Plan Ahead to Beat Distraction. Getting distracted isn't a moral failing. It’s just your brain trying to avoid hard work. Willpower won't save you because it's fickle. The real solution is to plan your time. A calendar makes the decision for you before the impulse to procrastinate ever shows up.
Measure Your Time, Not Just Your Tasks. To-do lists are a trap. They show what you finished, but not what it took to get there: your time and your focus. The goal of a work block isn't just to finish something. It's to work on it without getting sidetracked. That's the only way you'll learn how long things actually take.
Help People, Don't Trick Them. You can either persuade users or you can coerce them. Persuasion helps them do what they already want to, like save money or exercise. Coercion tricks them into doing things they'll regret. Only one of these is a good long-term business plan.
AI Makes Products Stickier. The best products get better the more you use them. This is where AI is a total game-changer. It uses a person's data to make the experience better just for them. That creates a powerful reason for people to stick around, because the product just gets them.
"Everything we do is for one reason and one reason only, and that is the desire to escape discomfort."
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